How to Leverage Human Design in Your Business with Petia Kolibova

Kathryn Thompson  00:02
Hey, hey, I am super excited to have CATSA on the show today to talk about human design and how to use it in your life and in your business. I've been working with human design for about two years now. But I've never had anyone on the show to share about it. So I'm really excited. And I know our listeners are going to be excited. So I'm just going to turn it right over to you to share with our listeners, who you are, what you do and who you serve.

Petia Kolibova  00:28
Absolutely. And first of all, thank you so much for having me, Katherine here, and I absolutely love your show, and you know, your mission. So it's super aligned with mine. And like you said, like, human design, it's something that we can be using in our personal life in business. And, you know, I feel like each and every one of us, we have this stage of our life when we are like trying to find ourselves, right? Like, why am I here? What is my purpose? What am I supposed to do here. And that's the time when we are going through a lot of conditioning, right? As kids, as teenagers, young adults, we receive a lot of things from the outside a lot of conditioning, when we are being told what we should do who we should be. And, you know, I went through a lot of that, especially like growing up in a small town, in Czech Republic, you know, the hands, that's where as my accent from, where there was a huge conditioning, you know, from the politics, from the family from everything, a lot of scarcity and limitations. And deep inside, even though I couldn't understand it back then now when I look at it, I understand that I just knew I meant for more, I just knew that this can be at you know, this Eloah small town and you just, you know, go to the school, then you get married, then you get a job, then you have two and a half kids, and then you're drinking yourself, you know, during the week with the friends complaining about life, I'm like, This can't be aired. So throughout my journey, I've been like discovering a lot like about who I am. And I was always having this like thirst and hunger, to like, understand myself and understand the world and understand people like why we are doing what we are doing. It always like fascinated me. And I would say like the first 30 years of my life, it was more of trial and error and error and error and error and error and error and then trial and error. You know, it was a lot of like falling on the face. Because I was outsourcing a lot of things outsourcing my happiness, outsourcing my worthiness really not seeing myself you know, and also like, the conditioning and what I grew up in was, you know, my stepfather was physically and mentally abusive. I develop eating disorder since I was like little girl 18 years. Sorry, 11 years old. Wow. You know, that's just when you think about it. Like when you're 11 you're still just a child, you know, and I already struggle with my image and with feeling empty and binging and purging on food when you're 11 you know, you're supposed to be just still playing with adults, right? Yeah.

Petia Kolibova  03:19
So when I was 18, I run away from home because my stepfather was really abusive. And I enter into relationship that, of course, was abusive to because I didn't know any better. Yeah, so it was just like this running away from myself running away from you know, my abusers until I was around 2828 half years old. And again, just looking back, like Steve Jobs says, You cannot connect the dots looking forward, you can connect them looking backwards. And that's what I'm seeing now to understand more in the connections when I was around 28 and 920. You know, like, somewhere there. I had like this major, like, I cannot do this anymore, and depression and it was just like, really like this realization if I keep going like this, I won't survive this anymore. And I learned that that's when our center it's in return right? When the sun is going again around the planet. And that's when a lot of awakening is happening. And I sit specially in, like my clients and women that I work with, that we come around the age 30 into like a midlife crisis, when we realize that, you know, like, you know, it's enough. I don't want to live like this. I don't like my body. I don't like my relationship. I don't like my job. And it's like suddenly everything starts to move in very quick ways, you know? So yeah, that was the time when I started to like digging into personal development spiritual development. I found out Louise Hay and you know, her publishing company and you know, Like, everyone who comes with it, right, Gabby Bernstein and Dr. Wayne Dyer, Joe Dispenza. All these beautiful people were giving me hope. And that's what helped me start going. But back then it was a lot of like personality tests. And I noticed that as much as I desire to understand myself and the world, my answers would be always changing. You know, it's like you take a personality test in the morning, it's going to be probably different the next morning, right the answer. So, around four years ago, I find a human design. And it was like, the second time finding it around because the first time was like, around five-ish years ago, when my clients like started to mention it. I was like, Oh, another tool, I don't want to learn one more thing. It's like when you have that resistance, like I'm overwhelmed, and like, this is just a new trend. It's like when Instagram brings you real son, it's still there a year later, and you are hoping it's a try. And then you don't have to jump on it, you know? So the same happened with like, human design for me, like first there was like resistance, like, Okay, this is just a cool trend, and it will pass. But I felt like it kept rising. And I keep hearing about it was like, Okay, let me get the reading. Let's see, what is this about? And after my first reading, I got really hooked up because I felt seen, I felt recognized and a lot of things that I used to judge about myself suddenly made sense.

Kathryn Thompson  06:26
Yeah. So I feel like for

Petia Kolibova  06:29
you know, our listeners today, like if there are still things that you are like, doubting that you are, like, judging about yourself, like, what if you were designed this way? What if there is nothing wrong with you? Like just that knowingness that hey, there's nothing wrong with this is not just like blaming it on it, right? Like, oh, I'm lazy by design. No, yeah. This way, it's not like blaming or like seeing the negative things, you know, like that. But it's like the deep understanding and coming into the knowingness that there is nothing wrong with you. And there are things that you can keep discovering, like, I'm studying human design, I have different mentors, courses, you know, books, like you name it, then I have this period when I go like so deeply, and that I can get enough of it, that I'm studying it for, like hours a day. And then I disconnect maybe for weeks. Yeah, because there is this deep like, embodiment, integration, understanding, practicing it, you know, because like human design, I feel like it's a lifelong experiment, literal experiment, that we can be like taking on. But I feel like for those who are listening, and you mentioned that you always talk about it, you know, probably already to their test. And so, you know, like who they are, because I feel like it's very fascinating how you can use this beautiful modality that it's like, it's like this beautiful art and science all in one because it's bringing, like the ancient wisdom, you know, and the modern. So it brings like quantum physics, but it also brings like, the Anshan wetek chakras and I Ching, and you know, which comes from China, and it brings the astrology, so all these ancient, you know, modalities and art, then blending it with the new with the understanding with where we are today. So I think it's really fascinating on how it can help us to understand us who we are. So please, always, no matter what you're starting in life, start with yourself. Yes. Human Design or new job, new relationship, whatever it is, start with you start with understanding yourself, start looking at the depths of who you really are, you know, and how you were seeing the world. And then only then you can take the next step and look at others because like I said, I don't know, like if you experienced it, like with your loved ones, you know, but when I discover human design, and I started to study it for myself, I'm like, Oh, my God, I gotta see my husband. Like, that was like the very next. And I feel like it's really better and deepen our relationship because he's emotional manifesting generator. Yeah. Before I knew that I would take things personally, right? I would be like, he's emotional. What did I do? What can I do to make him happy? Right? Why he's doing 10 things at the same time, why he's not listening, you know, then instead of driving me crazy that I'm like, he was designed this way. It's not like I don't care anymore, but I don't take it personally. And when I see him and his emotional wave that it's low. I'm not saying I don't care and it makes me happy, right? I still have this like, because I'm generated five one so I'm like the fake Sir,

Kathryn Thompson  10:00
yeah, interesting

Petia Kolibova  10:02
solution seeker. So when I see and I'm like, Oh, you can do this, you can do this. You can do this. I'm like, Petya, you didn't get anything to respond, stop initiating, you know. So, understanding your beloved ones, it's going to be life giving. I had a client a few weeks ago in Tulum. So right now we're visiting states, but we're living in Mexico. In Tulum, yeah, we got a client, there was a fellow coach for women, and she just had a baby five months ago. So I did a reading for the whole family for her partner and the baby. Yeah, you know, and the baby was four months when I did the reading. But it both gave them such a deep understanding, you know, because their baby, it's manifesting generator, but he is all defined, he is all night. Fine. And I never seen anyone like that. But I feel like the new babies are coming in, they're less prone to conditioning like we are with open centers. Right, interesting. So I really feel like the new babies that are coming in. They're more like leaders, you know, they're more like, like showing up, you know, so I feel like it's different, you know, and again, it's not comparing, right. Yeah, totally. It's fascinating to look at it, you know, when I was doing like, charts like for my mom, right. And when I'm doing charts for five, or four months or two, you know, so it's just like, I feel like you can see how the consciousness is shifting right? And how human design, it's reminding us that we came here and we were in our heads, right? Like 1000s and 1000s years ago, like head was the thing that kept us safe and surviving. Now the mind, it's meant to be in the back right in the back seat. And mind is beautiful and amazing. We don't want to judge it. That's for bringing us dreams and like dreaming and ideas. But it's not the driver. Body, it's the driver, our authority, it's the driver. So you know, for me, it's so fascinating and business matter, because there are five different designs, right. So there is this generator, manifesting generator, reflector, and projector. And each of us we have a different role in the world. But for all of us, we are meant to be coming, you know, from our body note, let our mind to ride the show, because that's old news. And our mind is still trying to come in and tell us what to do. And when you allow it, that's when you feel stuck when you're feeling frustrated, you know. So it's really time to come into our body because it's before it was like we were calling it like the types of information right when we're in our heads, and when all of the things were coming on us. And we needed to be in our mind, but now it's a time of intuition. So from times of information, we step into the time of intuition. And then there is the prediction from Rahu, you know, channel and downloaded all this beautiful information of human design, who said that there will be another energy shift in 2027. So in five years, there will be a huge shift, when you know, our energy will expand even more. And we are going to be stepping into that energy from intuition into the oneness, when we will be realizing that we truly are all one and we will stop like judging and comparing and it's no good. So it started with the survivor right? Then we're stepping into the age of intuition when we're intuitively like learning how to understand our life, our bodies, who we are, why we came here and it's not coming just from mine, but from you know, our intuition and our outer reality. And then we're stepping into the oneness when it starts to be blending and we are starting to be more connected than ever before. And I feel like right now with what is happening in the world, right? Like there's like this big boom of like the vision right? Like, I'm too this I'm too Dad believing in this believing in that. But it's also awakening a lot of people and bringing a lot of us together into not settling anymore like when you know everything started a couple of years ago, my business tripled because women started to realize I am not living the life that I want. This is not my purpose. I'm not aligned, right and maybe it wasn't playing like that in their head like oh yeah, I purpose. It's not that you were like hey enough, it's enough. I don't want to go back to this work. I don't want to be in this relationship because now we are in your with your partner. 24/7 right. Leave house so we can all feel everything like shifting, then I feel like human design can really bring you back home to yourself to that understanding who am I? What is my purpose? How am I like responding to the world and then you extend it. My family, my clients my work like understanding, you know, if you have a, let's say, boss or partner who is a manifester, don't take it personal when they just go and snap out of the door and didn't tell you anything. Just

Petia Kolibova  15:34
know. So that's why I feel like human design is such a powerful tool in your personal life, to give yourself permission to be yourself and to really feel aligned with your truth. And with your loved ones and your business. Like every single person who comes to talk to me, like whether they have a clarity call, whether they're on boarded as a new client, whether they come into my VIP weekend's you know, or my week-long retreats, I always see that human design, it's nonnegotiable. Yeah, I get to understand you, I'm going to speak to you differently if you're a projector than if you're, you know, generator or manifester? You know,

Kathryn Thompson  16:17
yeah, let's talk about the different types, because I think you've covered a lot of really kind of cool ways of of using human design. But the benefit of it right like that, it really does benefit. All of the relationships and business is relational, right? If you're in business, and you're working with people, it's relational. And so to be able to understand, not only yourself, but understand the people that you're actually working with and speaking with, and you talked about, I'm going to I'm not going to talk to manifest errs the same way I talked to projectors. And I kind of chocolate the story of my husband is an emotional manifesting generator, and I'm a sacral manifesting generator. So we're we operate very differently. And the same thing is once I learned his human design, it was like, okay, yes, I can't take things so personally, but I also need to understand that, you know, his emotional wave is not mine. Hmm. Oh, my gosh, yeah. Yeah. So, um, let's talk about the different types and how you would in business, for example, projectors, how would you talk differently to a projector and why?

Petia Kolibova  17:28
I love that they are asking about projectors, my spiritual wife, it's a projector, you know, and I learned so much about her. So in business, you know, for example, like you said, your sacral ride your manifesting generator was sacral. So you know, right away, I'm also sacral generator. So you asked me yes or no questions. And I know right away with the projector, it will really depend on their authority, because they're different authority, like ego, emotional, you know, splenic, and it's really self projector. They need speak things through. But with the projectors, you know, there is no yes or no questions. It's open-ended questions. And then you just look at what is their authority? If they're emotional, you will just ask them, like, what would it feel like, right? With all the projectors, you get to make them feel recognized and seen because they have so much wisdom to share projectors are here to guide us? Yeah, they see like the only ones, they see the energy, they see our gifts, and they can see a better way, you know, so we get to listen to them and recognize them. Because if we don't recognize them, and they will share our wisdom, we are not going to hear that we are not going to apply that you know, so with a projector I will act differently than for example, with mg with sacral. With you, I can ask you yes or no questions like hey, do you want to start coaching next week? Or would you prefer to start the next month? You know, it's like, Would you like to start next week? You're like, Okay, would you like to start next week? Uh-huh. Ah, but you know, right away, you know, if I, for example, have emotional projector, they will need time, like with my projector, sometimes it takes two to three months, before they signed for my service, they feel good about me, they feel good about what I'm offering. But I need to, you know, like a little bit more time they need to sleep on this, they need to see how they feel about it and sleep on it again, you know, so, like, they have to be in the right emotional stage. So it's just like with the projectors, what I noticed with all of them, everything takes them a little bit longer, you know, and it doesn't have to be like if there is a self project that or splenic they can like respond a little bit faster, you know, but still, they have to be recognized. Yeah, there has to be that I am seeing and I'm recognized and that's when they come out, you know?

Kathryn Thompson  19:54
Yeah. And I love that you talked about the wisdom that they have. I have a projector in one of my groups. At the moment and I'm I'm constantly recognizing her and reminding her that she has all of this wisdom within herself and she sees things so differently and the rest of the collective so to speak, and she can really guide us to new ways better ways, more evolved ways and so I love that about the projectors. What about manifest errs?

Petia Kolibova  20:20
So I am so like excited for manifest errs. It's so I hosted retreat into law firm and I do very small like intimate retreat. So I had five women, four of them were manifester. So one of them was manifesting generator and it's not like I'm like, Oh, I'm just enrolling manifester, cinders it just naturally happen. Yeah. And it was so powerful because manifest errs are the only designs that can literally follow the advertising from Nike, just do it. They're the only ones who can go and initiate things. And they have, I feel like manifester, so have such a power of creating new things and initiating new things and doing things differently. But they just gotta go and initiate and then they have to learn to delegate and also inform people, right because they can go do and just forget, there's like, people depending on them or waiting for them in the back. Right. So manifestos are very powerful. They hate to be told what to do. I know that none of us like it, but manifester is like you tell them what to do. And they tapped out, you know, it's like there will be well, they're not listening. They're they're like leaving the room. You know. So with the manifester. It's just really just reminding them of their power because so many manifestos they were conditioned and told no. So they learn to stop informing, because it's like, imagine you have a manifestor little kid and the kid says, like, Oh, I'm gonna go and I want to play in the forest, you know? And you're like, No, no, it's not safe, you cannot go there. So they're like, Well, I was honest. And I said, what I wanted to do, and I was cut off, and that will keep happening throughout their life, right? Like, they will be cut off. So they will stop informing. So they get to relearn that they can trust others, and that they are not meant to do everything by themselves. Initiate when you feel that urge and that move, but then you really get to get help and delegate because you don't have the energy to follow through all those projects. And you will be angry, you know, that's like when you're misaligned, you will be angry. So I love manifestos because I feel it's, it's they're, like, very strong-headed. They're very independent, you know, but all of them that I met, there are like working on personal development, spiritual development, when they're working on themselves. They're literally changing the world. You know, like, all of the women that I work with, they're manifest errs, they have very unique gifts and doing very unique things that is generated, wouldn't even think about I have a client who came to me, she, we connected into lawm, she wanted to come to my retreat, and I was just listening to her and like, What is she doing? And she was like, you know, like, I'm studying yoga and doing yoga and you know, I'm certified blah, blah, blah. And then she was like, and I am also studying crypto Anna. Oh, my God, like, it's so moved me like the way she said it. And I look at her and like, mind you, we just met five minutes. And I'm like, You're not meant to do yoga. Like forget the freaking yoga, everybody can do yoga, but not everybody can do crypto and educating woman about finances. And she's so like, sweet and loving and like literally like this tiny little yoga person, you know? And, and so she is doing now crypto yoga. You know, like, how would you pair those two together? Wow,

Kathryn Thompson  23:52
crypto yoga. Yeah. Yep. Crazy.

Petia Kolibova  23:56
Amazing. Right?

Kathryn Thompson  23:57
That is crazy. Yeah.

Petia Kolibova  23:59
And then I had another one who is a TV show producer in Canada. And she's, you know, producing, it's called, she has a show called Virgin. Yeah. And it's about you know, like woman like back from her origin from the country, you know, and, and speaking just about their culture at origin, and it's made in such a fun way that it's bringing, like back education to our country, you know, but also like empowering woman nowadays, you know, in Canada or all around the world and like, how do you come up with these things and writing these scripts? It was like so amazing and beautiful. I'm like, I'm not from that culture, but I love it, you know? Yeah. So it's just like I see manifest errs there are coming from, like, completely different perspective. I had another client manifester, who she did like Kundalini yoga and Reiki which is like pretty normal, right? But before that she was working with wild animals like tigers and things like that. And she was missing it. But she was thinking that I cannot make money through this. I'm like, Who told you? Yeah, so now she is doing like meditation and Reiki with animals. So she did like a one-day Evan will. I don't know what it's called that weird animal alpaca or something? Oh, pakka Yeah, yeah. So she did like guided meditations and Reiki with our podcasts and people together. So she's bringing the animal kingdom and people together through healing, but completely different way like Kundalini Reiki meditation, so I feel like a manifester. They have a lot to teach us, you know, when they learn to inform those people who are going to be impacted? You know, yeah,

Kathryn Thompson  25:39
do you find that manifesting generators also carry some of that? spective?

Petia Kolibova  25:47
Absolutely. Because, you know, it's, I feel like, it's a baby of manifester in the generator, you know, so, I feel like the, and I see it, of course, you know, your manifesting generator, your husband to my husband is manifesting generator. And I see, like, there is this aspect of initiating things, you know, and going quickly for something getting lit up. But then, like, skipping steps, and not finishing everything, and I'm sometimes envious, because, as a generator, you know, and my ego, it's also defined, when I start something, I will finish it. You know, it's like, there is no way for me, and my husband's like, Yeah, I'll do it. And then he's doing 10 Other things, and completely forget about the five previous things, you know, unless it's in his calendar and suck, it has to happen. But there is this part when we started dating, and this is like, over four years ago now, and I didn't even know, you know, like, that was like four and a half years ago, before I got introduced to human design to where I am now. Yeah, I intuitively told him you're not informing me. Like he would start something like for example, back then he had a different business partner. He live in California, I lived in Las Vegas, we had like, long-distance relationship. And he would like I was used to that he texts me in the morning, you know, like lovey-dovey. Yeah. And then we talk through how the day and then we do calls throughout the day or evening. And sometimes they were days that like, I wake up and there is no text message. And then I don't hear from him until like 7pm. And it's, and it's not like I am like dependent on him. But there is a written that we established that it's normally happening. And if it's not going to happen, I'm fine. I can keep myself busy. But tell me so I tell him, you get to inform me and tell me like, Hey babe, like I will have a busy day, I'm not going to be able to talk. So I had to learn him to inform me and that was even before human design, but now manifesting generator, your strategy is to respond but also to inform the first to respond and then you get to be informing about, you know, what is going to affect and influence other people around you. So I feel like manifesting generators do have the vision for like, new ideas, but it's not so like strong and powerful as the manifester you know, but still like manifesting generators, I love that because they have like, the energy of like starting things and being lit up and they fill up the rooms, you know, it's like a, it's like life-giving energy.

Kathryn Thompson  28:20
Yeah, it's interesting because I equally I have an extremely defined will center or ego, or I think all of my gates are activated except for one and then I also have the money channel and so I offered a lot on willpower but it's equally caused a lot of havoc sometimes in my life because I'm pushing for things that not necessarily are aligned like I'm so committed to finishing the thing. But as a mani Jen, we're not we're meant to pivot a lot and to change and to follow the excitement so I've had to really learn to sort of balance that of like as I have a highly defined wheel center, but it doesn't mean that I stick with something just for the sake of sticking with it is to let those things go and then generator so you're a generator so let's talk about the generators and how to work with that within your business.

Petia Kolibova  29:14
So you know, as a generator generators are the life force, you know, the life force of the Planet of the Earth, because we came here to work on the things that excite us and when we do things that you know, really, like light us up, then we are magnetic and that's how we are like we are being charged you know, and we're charging those around us so you can tell when generator is aligned or not because if generators just frustrated and going through the motions, that means that generator because we have so much energy, we're saying yesterday, things that don't light us up just because conditioning we feel like we should right? And then of course it will depend on your channels and your profile, but very much with the generators there can be this conditioning like oh, they have Energy, they can do it, they can finish it right. And we feel like obligated that we should do that. Because we do have the energy for it. And we say yes to the things that are not heaven. Yes. So that's something that I had to learn myself. Like, is this a heaven? Yes. And if it's not heaven, yes. Is it the know? Or is it like, maybe or I don't know. Because if it's somewhere in the middle, it means just not right now. You know, so it's super important for us to really do the things that only light us up, even though if it doesn't make sense, even though if it's scary, because when we do that, we are able to produce so much more than if we're just pushing ourselves and going through the motions, you know, and it's super important, especially in business, you know, because like, I had to see that and be really honest with myself, because, like, the five one, I'm a solution seeker, I see people I'm like, I know, I can help you. I know, I can do that. But the people are not ready. And they're not like I haven't Yes, for me, but I'm like, but I can help them. But then it's like, then I'm saying no to the things and people that are having Yes, for me. So we get to learn to say no as generators and really follow our excitement, you know, and, and trusting our authority. It's so important, you know, for all of our designs, you know, but especially I feel like for generators, like if we're saying yes to the things they're not having, yes, we're not only hurting ourselves, but also those around us. Because if I say yes to a client, who is not having yes, there can be out there a coach who is a heaven, yes, for this type of person that I'm not. So saying no to the things and money and opportunities. It's sometimes scary, but it always it always paid off. Like I remember when I started my coaching, and I was back then charging, like $900 a month. And, you know, I had a client who like finish her coaching, you know, like, she finished her package and she had tremendous results. She's doing amazing. Now she's on her way on off seven figures online coaching business, you know, super proud of her. But when she was like, I'm completed, we did everything I wanted to do, you know, I freaked out, and I'm like, I loved working with her. And, you know, like, this was really good. I was scared, you know, like, there will be a GAAP and there will be this money, you know, missing this is like, you know, like four years ago, and then I enrolled client who paid me $1,200 a month, you know, so it's just like, we still have a beautiful relationship, you know, with Valerie, we still are in touch, we still support her, I stay in touch with my clients, but it's just releasing, you know, releasing to the things that are not having Yes, for you, because you're trying to do with your head.

Kathryn Thompson  32:45
Yeah, that's so beautiful. Because I think that's probably like one of the biggest lessons. I mean, I've learned a lot from human design. And like you said at the beginning, right, it's like you finally feel sort of seen and accepted for the way in which you operate. And how you operate how you're actually designed. And there's no shame in that and, and learning to say yes to only the things that really excite you and to trust your gut and intuition that you know, the things that are are no are really actually I know and like you said, anything that you take on that to know is going to create resistance or Havoc or block that further abundance from coming into your business. Let's talk about the reflectors, because they're a rare, rare type. They're about 1% Yeah,

Petia Kolibova  33:31
they are rare, but I had to reflect the clients. Brilliant. Yeah, like, you know, like when I started to work with them, that was like over four years ago in my coaching business when I had one and then I had another one refractors are very rare, but they're so special, and they have such a depth to you know, because they really reflect the energy and the health of their community. So for reflectors, it's super, super, super important on what environment they're living in because it's going to affect them they're fully open like everything, all of the conditioning, you know that so they're fully open and they need the most time on deciding something because their lunar being so you know, it's being taught and said that the reflectors they need 28 days to decide on bigger decisions. It's not like well, I have a coffee or tea this morning, right? It's not that but what about my job? What about my relationship? Do I want to invest this money? Do I want to start this business? It's going to take a longer time, and they need other people to talk through sayings. You know, so because they can not like decide like for themselves they need like space around them, of safe people that they really feel good and that they feel really seen. And what I love about reflectors, it's so interesting, they can become and model anything they want. So whatever business you want to be in whatever you want to be doing your reflect You're like a mirror of everything around you. So you can just like take and learn and just model because it's so easy for them because they receive everything. So, for them, it's super, super, super important. The environment, I remember I had one client who she's from London, and she lived, you know, she was in like, leaving a job and you know, it was toxic job. And she moved with her parents back, so she can, like get a get a place for herself, and she wanted to move to France. So she was like, in a middle. But the work was really toxic for her, you know, and her father was really like, toxic and abusive. So she was in the worst place possible for like a reflector, and she couldn't like sleep, well shouldn't function well, you know, so you can really see on the reflectors, how they're really affected through their environment, my other client who was reflected, she was a nurse, and, you know, stepping into coaching. So again, she's very much like, affected by her environment. You know, as a nurse, she was feeling like this, like, a whole, almost hopelessness because she wanted to be helping and supporting people, but there's only so much you can do as a nurse with, you know, the bureaucracy and protocols and everything. So, I saw that my clients, they were reflecting their skin going into very deep places, you know, like, depression and not feeling like, just not feeling happy to be alive, because they're so affected by their environment. But then again, when you see them in an environment, one of my clients, she, like, she spent like few weeks in Hawaii, and she was like, so full of light and so like, full of like, beautiful ideas and things, you know, so, reflectors are rare, but they're also like a beautiful like guides for our environment. Because when you look at them, the reflector, and their well-being, you will see the well-being of the community, you know,

Kathryn Thompson  37:01
so interesting. Yeah, I'm so intrigued by reflectors, like I said, I think I know one reflector, and I'm just one of the things that I know I learned about my chart was, well, I'm at a quantum level, a manifesting generator, I'm a reflector at the body and personality level. So I am still very wide open. And so I do resonate with that environment piece, right. It's like the environment that you're around and your and your well-being right, and how that really does impact everything around you. So, so beautiful. And I know that there's like all about the lines and like the channels and the gates. And there's, it's a very complex system. And I think you really touched on it very beautifully at the beginning is like you can like go down the rabbit hole, so to speak, and like, try to learn everything about it, and then set it aside and embodying it, integrate it because I think that's such a really important piece with human design, or any modality really is like giving yourself the space and the grace to actually embody and integrate it, because there is so much there. And I think when we try to just try to like digest everything we can get so overwhelmed with it. And then we're just not living it. We're intellectually getting it, but we're not actually living it. And like I said, I've been doing I've been kind of dabbling in it for two years. And like, same thing became like, I don't want to say obsessed with it. But I was just like reading everything about it. And then I had to like go away from it. And now I've kind of and read it again and then go away from it. And I've kind of brought it back into my life again here recently, with some big energy shifts I feel coming in my life and my business and so it's it's such a beautiful tool that's like a lifelong experiment as you called it. And I think that's so beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Is there anything that you feel like we haven't covered that you want to cover? today?

Petia Kolibova  38:49
I feel like we really covered like, you know, kinda like the everything but one thing that I want to remind those who are like feeling really intrigued, you know, about human design, like, you can get your free chart online, you know, it's super easy to get your free chart, but instead of like getting yourself overwhelmed, like look at the just at your design, like what is your design, learn about that, learn about your profile, and then you're out alrighty, you know, because with your design comes the strategy. But like, those three, like main things, are the things to start with and start embodying it, start integrating it like, because, you know, like, we talked about it, there's like, you know, 36 channels 64 You know, gates, you know, so like lines and everything. So don't worry about it. Just learn about yourself, what is your design, what is your strategy, your profile and your authority, then that's more than enough to keep you busy for a couple of years. And start noticing and do that with your loved ones. And then if you ever want to go deeper, I do human design readings, like just the mini sessions, but or find yourself someone who can help you you know, to understand it better. I feel like also like, when we hear it from other people, and it's personalized for you, it sinks deeper because your subconscious mind it's, you know, listening and embracing it differently than when you just go and ask Uncle Google, you know, what is my new journey about you know, so, you know, there are people who are loving it dedicated to it, like I said, I do minutes sessions, and people can find out about it in my Instagram bio, but like, give yourself permission to go into places that you have never been before. You know, like, give yourself permission to be seen and heard and understood. Because that's why you came here and you're so deserving. COVID

Kathryn Thompson  40:41
Yeah, beautiful. And would you recommend, like I say, dabbling in it first, but just trying to understand, like, your profile and your authority and your lines and all of that, and then getting a reading kind of right away. Like I know, I got a reading fairly early, and I found it really helped me because it like you said, it kind of sunk in a little bit.

Petia Kolibova  41:02
I feel like it's like, if you feel the calling to understand human design, get your reading, you know, because what happens like each of us will be different, right? Like some people, they prefer to have a supporting guide. And some people they just love, like, for example, the profile one, three, they just intuitively, you know, they're the investigators they want to go they want to learn they want to so the one on lines, they're conscious one lines, they will just go want to go first, right? For me and five, one of the one it's unconscious, so I learned some little bit and I'm like, I don't get it. This is overwhelming. And then when I got reading, then I understood what I was reading about, you know, so like, go online, look at your profile, just look at what is your design, and then ask yourself, like, Does it feel good to work with someone else? Would you like to go deeper? Would I love to be supported by someone? You know, like, look at those and then you're like, okay, okay, like, I feel like it feels good. Like, I want to somebody else's help, you know, so then go for it. Yeah. Your body's telling you.

Kathryn Thompson  42:08
Yeah, I'm a four six. So definitely love like being in community and talking with. That's why when after, you know, being in groups or community yeah, getting ready,

Petia Kolibova  42:19
see if I can like, in my like, in my personal learning designs, do you know, I have seven of the two. So I'm not two, but I have seven of them. You know,

Kathryn Thompson  42:28
I'm like, Yeah,

Petia Kolibova  42:29
I like being alone. I'm single definition. I don't need anyone you know, so I'm good with people, you know, because I'm here to like, liberate and guide people as the five you know, that's conscious for me. But also, like, leave me alone. I'm like, and when I see fours, I'm like, Oh my gosh, like, in my husband. He's like, one three, but he's like, external like money journey. And he loves groups and he split definition. So he loves being with groups and with other people. I'm like, I'm really good here on this couch alone with my dog. So

Kathryn Thompson  43:04
I love it. Because I'm a four, six, and a split definition. So yeah, communities and groups and stuff. But I think because I do have such a lot of open centers as well. I do love my alone time for decompressing from the groups. But yes, that's so funny. The two line I love twos because they're like, the hermit I had a VA that was a two line and she was just like, I'm such a hermit half the time but honestly, I'm, I'm here to support you. But I like to Yeah, operate on my own. So yes, well, it's been beautiful connecting with you. I know our listeners are gonna love Human Design. As I said, I haven't had anybody on talk about it. I've referenced it a few times. So it's been such a pleasure to have you on can't wait for this to drop. Where can people find you if they want to connect with you get a reading. Learn more about what you do.

Petia Kolibova  43:53
So if people would like to connect on Instagram, it's the best place I do all of my DMs, you know, so I have a team supporting me, but I answer a lot, my DMs. So I think that's the best way you can learn everything. And it's my name. So you will spell it for them because nobody can pronounce my last name, you know, so just for their coloboma on Instagram or my website, it's particular mobile.com Or I absolutely love my podcast and apologetically abundance when I share everything about abundance and you know, personal spiritual development and empowering you to know, empowering the humanity.

Kathryn Thompson  44:28
Brilliant. I love it. And we will definitely link that up in the show notes so that they can just click on that link and find you. Awesome. Well, it's been a pleasure, as always, and I can't wait for this to drop. Thank you. You're welcome.